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Honor I gained them
Science
fiction author David Weber - creator of the fabulous Honor Harrington
series of novels - in his most detailed interview to date. Fantasy
author Stephen Hunt, a big fan of David's books, pokes a microphone
in Mr Weber's direction.
In honor I gained them. In honor I will die with them.
- Lord Horatio Nelson, when asked about the stars on his uniform.
Are
you currently writing full-time now, or are you still fitting in
the odd day-job?
I've been writing full-time now for at least five years.
When and why did you begin writing? When
did you first consider yourself a writer?
I
began writing in the fifth grade. I have supported myself as a writer,
one way or another, since I was about 17. I've written advertising,
public relations news releases, government reports, explanations
of economic development plans, newspaper articles, magazine articles,
and just about anything else you can think of.
I ran my own small advertising agency for several years, and I
have also worked as a typesetter and an old-fashioned paste-up artist.
In fact, I'm probably one of the last trained Linotype operators
around ... although that's pretty much an obsolete skill, of course.
I began thinking of myself as "a writer" about the time I finished
my first successful piece of advertising copy. I began thinking
of myself as a writer of novels less when I sold the first
novel than when I sold the second one.
In fact, I sold Baen Books Mutineers' Moon and The Armageddon
Inheritance simultaneously, and only after they had been initially
turned down. The fact that I had sold my second and third books
(which also happened to be the first solo books I sold) and done
so after I had demonstrated that I could respond to the publisher's
criticism in a way which convinced him to go ahead and by them after
all caused a little voice in my head to say "Hey, I can do
this, after all!"
How has becoming a published author affected
your lifestyle?
It's confirmed the fact that I can do something I always wanted
to do. It's improved my income. It's brought me into contact with
a lot of other people, from readers to writers, and it's given me
the opportunity to meet writers whose books I always loved and admired
as fellow professionals.
I would include in that category Roger Zelazney, Annie McCaffrey,
Fred Saberhagen, Andre Norton, Poul Anderson, Hal Clement, Sprague
and Catherine DeCamp, and many, many more. To be perfectly honest,
in many respects the opportunity to meet all of those people has
been at least as great a pleasure for me as the discovery that so
many people actually seem to enjoy reading my stories.
Do you tend to read the work of many other
SF/F authors?
I do, but I don't get to read anywhere near as many of them as
I would like. In fact, I get to read less of them writing full-time
than I did before I was published. Part of it is simple lack of
time, since I produce the equivalent of about four full-length novels
a year. Another part of it is that I think you have only a certain
amount of what I call "literary energy."
You can use a given quantity of it to either read 50,000 words
or write 5,000 words. Given the production schedule I'm looking
at these days, I tend to use more of it up on writing than I do
on reading. I do make a conscientious effort to keep up with a handful
of writers no matter how far behind I get, but it isn't easy. I
enjoy reading others in the field; I just don't have as much time
to do it as I wish I did.
What are your favorite SF/F movies and
TV?
I'm not a real big movie-goer, and I don't watch a whole lot of
television. Well, aside from baseball games. I'm a huge Atlanta
Braves' fan, which poses some real problems for me between April
and October. I wind up rationing myself to watching about two-thirds
of the ballgames, which doesn't leave me very much time to watch
anything else.
I really enjoyed the movie Independence Day, although in
many respects it was a terrible flick. I think of it as sort of
a deliberate Grade-B movie, which set out to handle all of the Grade-B
tropes on a monster scale and did it pretty thoroughly. I wasn't
overly impressed with The Phantom Menace, and I haven't seen
Attack of the Clones yet. On the fantasy side, I loved The
Fellowship of the Ring and Shrek, which probably says
something about the, um ... catholicism of my taste in fantasy.
As far as television goes, Babylon 5 probably tops all of
the televised offerings in my opinion, although I'm also quite fond
of SG-1 and Andromeda. I think that the reason B
5 tops my list of favorites buy as wide a margin as it does
is the sense that the entire series was part of one ongoing story
concept. The episodes fitted together in a way which isn't possible
without that overriding conceptual framework.
Do you use an agent?
No. I never have.
How long did you spend in rejection letter
hell before you were first published?
My
first fantasy novel, which has yet to be sold, is set in the same
universe and story line as my two published fantasies: Oath of
Swords and The War God's Own, and it was rejected by
several publishers before Steve White and I sold Insurrection,
our first collaborative novel.
I guess I spent about a year submitting it one place and another
before I began submitting Insurrection. It took about another
year to get a response for Insurrection, which came from
John Douglas, when he was with Avon. Unfortunately, although John
worked with us for the better of another year, we were never able
to get the book down to a length that Avon was willing/able to publish
as a first-novel.
So John advised me to withdraw it and to submit it somewhere else,
with the offer from his side of a strong letter of recommendation.
I submitted it to Baen Books, who promptly bought it, and that was
the end of "rejection letter hell" for me and Steve.
Did you always want to be a writer?
I always figured that I would probably teach college history somewhere
and write on the side. I already was a writer in the sense
of being someone who made his living from putting words together,
and it never really occurred to me that I wouldn't write.
By the same token, however, it was really hard to get up the nerve
to make the first submission of a novel.
I suspect that I probably could have been published at least five
or ten years earlier than I actually was, except that I didn't have
the self-confidence to take the plunge. Or it could even be simpler
than that. I often think that what it really was, was that as long
as I hadn't submitted my books and had them rejected, my belief
that I could be a successful professional author was intact. If
I'd submitted them and had them all rejected, that belief -- and
dream -- would've been destroyed.
Where, when, and how do you write?
I write primarily evenings and at night. I find that the ability
to work in large blocks of time without interruptions (because the
rest of the world is asleep) is very important to my writing style.
That isn't to say that I can't write at other times of the day if
I absolutely must, just that I prefer working late and sleeping
in, in the morning.
I have a home office, where I can close the door and concentrate,
although during the day domestic matters have a tendency to intrude.
(I expect that problem to get worse in a little bit. My wife, Sharon,
is pregnant, and we are simultaneously attempting to adopt twin
daughters from Cambodia. When we add three children to the household,
"domestic matters" are probably going to get a bit more intrusive.)
I tend to be something of an obsessive-compulsive type when I write.
I do very detailed "universe-building" background essays and tech
bibles, but my plot outlines tend to be extremely rough before I
sit down to begin work. I find that providing my characters with
a comprehensive "toolbox" and a well-developed back canvas against
which to employ the tools it holds does a lot of the detailed plotting
for me as I work.
I know in general terms what my characters are going to be faced
with, as well as how I expect them to resolve the challenges they'll
face, but until I actually write a given scene, I don't have it
worked out in detail. I find that actually helps to pull me through
the writing process. Readers read books to find out how the story
works out; I write books to find out how the story works
out.
On a more technical from I began using voice-activated software
when I broke my wrist very badly about two years ago. I've found
that it tends to increase the rate at which I can write while I'm
actually working, but that it's more fatigue-sensitive than a keyboard.
You can push your fingers further than you can push your voice when
fatigue begins to blur your pronunciation and confuse the voice
recognition feature of your software.
I don't think it's had a major impact on my writing style,
but it does affect how I compose sentences. What I mean by that
is that because the software prefers complete phrases, in order
to let it extrapolate from context when it's trying to decide what
word to use for an ambiguous pronunciation, I have to decide how
I want a sentence to be shaped before I begin talking to a much
greater extent than I had to do before I began typing.
What are you reading now?
The books on the corner of my desk at the moment are Joanne Bertin's
Dragon and Phoenix, Robert Malcomson's Warships of the
Great Lakes, 1754-1834, Edward Porter Alexander's Fighting
for the Confederacy, the manuscript for the new Christopher
Anvil anthology Eric Flint is editing for Baen, and a handful of
books for hopeful fathers, with titles like How to Pamper Your
Pregnant Wife and How to Keep the Baby Alive Until Your Wife
Gets Home. There are quite a few other books on my "to-read"
shelf, but those are the ones I'm actually working on.
Did you come up through the writing short-stories
route, or did you get published in novel form first?
I was published in novel form first. In fact, I've done more short
fiction (for publication, at any rate) since getting established
as a writer of longer fiction.
How would you quickly summarize the Honor
series for someone who hasn't read any of the novels yet?
I'd say that the novels are about a 6' 2"-tall female, Eurasian
interstellar captain in a navy fighting a large interstellar war.
They're also about personal responsibility, personal commitment,
friendship, and the fact that even the "bad guys" trapped in fighting
a war are seldom really "villains."
The series is often described as "space opera," and I don't suppose
I can really quibble with that. But, like Babylon 5, it has
an underlying theme and story line that knits it all together. In
the end, although the stories focus very strongly on Honor and the
people who are important to her (and to whom she is important),
my object is really to tell the entire story of the war.
Why it was fought in the first place, what it cost everyone involved,
and what intended and unintended changes came out of it.
If your Honor series was going to be made
into a film, who would be your dream producers/actors for the role?
This is a question I really can't answer. There are so many imponderables,
and so many possibilities I wouldn't begin to be able to evaluate,
that anything I said would be little more than a guess.
I have been in discussion with some people in Los Angeles who are
trying to put together a television series or possibly a theatrical
release movie based on the books, but film is a medium in which
I lack expertise.
I don't think it's very likely that they're going to find a female
Eurasian martial artist who's over six feet tall, so I don't think
there's a lot of point in wasting a lot of time trying to somehow
manage Honor's physical type. My concern would be primarily that
the actress be able to handle the physicality of Honor's role and
to project her command style.
I'm not insistent on using a "name" actress for the role, although
Claudia Christian has been suggested, and I like her, both as a
person and as an actress. Lucy Lawless has also been suggested,
and I think she could make a very good Honor with the right makeup
(and a promise from the writers to avoid "Xena physics").
My biggest concern, actually, is whether or not it will be possible
to assemble a writing team which can successfully transmit Honor's
command style from dead-tree format to film. Hollywood, like fiction
in general, is very short of historical templates for female commanders
in combat.
Male commanders with Honor's command style -- the sort which radiates
calm at the heart of the storm rather than what I think of as "over
the top charisma" -- are rare enough to be mishandled frequently
by television and film writers.
The potential to do that with a female character is even
greater. I guess if I were going to look for any female television
character who reflected Honor's style, it would be Delenn from B
5, and I would be afraid that the writers would try to turn
her into Ivanova, instead.
Mind you, I think Claudia could play someone besides Ivanova very
handily, but there would have to be a certain tendency -- especially
if she were cast as Honor -- to go with what "worked" for Babylon.
Do you ever attend SF-cons and what has
your experience with them been?
I do attend cons. In fact, I make an effort to accept as many invitations
to conventions as I can. On occasion I've actually accepted a few
too many, which left me running very, very hard trying to keep to
my writing schedule.
On the whole, my experience with conventions has been very positive.
It's always flattering when people like your work well enough to
invite you over to play at their house, and I've found that fans,
as a group, tend to be among the nicest people on this planet. I
don't agree with certain writers who claim to believe that fandom
is bad for science fiction writers.
First and foremost, I consider myself an entertainer -- a storyteller.
It's an ancient and an honorable profession, dating back at least
as long ago as Homer, and while it may lack some of the high-brow
distinction of the true literati, it's good enough for me. Mind
you, I'm not going to object if someone decides that I'm a deathless
prose stylist, but I'm also not going to hold my breath waiting
for that to happen, either.
With that in mind, I find that the opportunities for direct feedback
from readers which conventions offer is extremely useful to me.
I already know where I'm going to go with the books, but a lot of
"fine tuning" results from conventions, panel discussions, and the
necessity to explain my ideas to someone else. I guess you might
say that fandom serves as a sounding board.
That the more I try to explain my ideas to someone else, the more
it draws those same ideas into focus for me. You do hit the occasional
argumentative fan, or the reader who is just a bit ... too deeply
into your books, let's say.
But in my opinion that's a very minor price to pay for the pleasure
of meeting so many people who not only read your books but are actually
willing to pay good money to do it. And I don't have a lot of patience
for those who think that hanging around with fans and using them
for feedback will somehow pollute the purity of their art.
Would you ever consider writing in a different
genre, or are you content with SF/F?
I would certainly consider writing in a different genre. In fact,
I have an entire series of historical novels which I'd love to write
someday. I have about as much background assembled for them as I
have on Honor Harrington's universe.
But I don't think I'm going to have the time anytime soon to get
to them. I am very heavily committed on the science fiction front,
and I have at least seven more books I'd like to do in the Oath
of Swords fantasy universe, as well. I don't think I'm going
to be able to justify taking time off from that writing schedule
to plunge into an entirely new (for me, anyway) genre. Someday,
though....
What are your hobbies?
History, pistol and rifle marksmanship, wargames, model railroads
(when I have time and space again), miniatures, stuffed animal collections,
and spades. Of course, I don't seem to have a lot of time to spend
on any of them at the moment, and the arrival of multiple children
isn't likely to make that situation a lot better.
What advice would you give to budding
SF writers?
I would advise that they write the stories they enjoy reading,
because if they enjoy them, someone else will as well, which
means there's a market. In addition, they're far more likely to
do a good job of telling the kind of story they like than they will
trying to tell someone else's sort of story simply because they
think that that's what's "hot" at the moment.
I would also advise them to remember that publishers are in the
business of publishing. They need books. That means that if what
you write is publishable, sooner or later you'll find the editor
who recognizes that it is and buys it. What happens after that is
always a crapshoot, but persistence pays off when it comes to submitting.
And above all, I would advise them to develop their own storytelling
voice. The unique way in which an individual writer tells his or
her stories is, in my opinion, what makes or breaks that writer.
I've known many people who I thought had the potential to be excellent
writers but who lacked the self-confidence, or something, to use
their own voice instead of attempting to do a pastiche of some established
writer. You cannot succeed trying to be someone else.
You must be yourself. Recognize that every writer is the product
of all he or she ever read, in some ways, but that you yourself
have to find a way to tell your stories. Don't use someone else's
world. The reason avoiding that sin is important is fairly easy
for starting writers to understand. The reason to never use someone
else's voice is just as real, and just as important, yet
somehow it seems to be a harder lesson to absorb.
You might notice that most of this isn't really specific solely
to SF. It's the same sort of advice I would give someone who wanted
to write in any genre, because the fundamentally important parts
of how you tell a story properly have to do with storytelling,
not genre labels. Which is also the reason that someone who wants
to write must never, ever, lose track of the fact that what any
story is really about is the characters within it. Tools, backdrop,
and genre conventions are all secondary to the need to create real
characters who are important -- whether as heroes or villains --
to the reader.
Are you from the "writing tightly against
the full outline" school or the "make it up as you go along" school?
I use very tightly organized tech bibles and background notes,
but when it comes to actually writing stories, I tend to let the
details make themselves up as I go along.
How much do you base your characters against
people you actually know?
Most of the central characters of my stories are created out of
"whole cloth." Over the years, and particularly in the Honor Harrington
books, I have developed the habit of "Tuckerizing" people from fandom.
Some of them are just friends of mine and get stuck in for supporting
roles (and usually get killed in one of the numerous battles in
the books), but I also auction appearances in the books to support
the charities sponsored by various conventions.
There I tend to use the name of the individual who buys the appearance,
and perhaps to incorporate some physical elements from the real
person, but by and large I don't know them well enough to try to
make a character that is "really them." Like any writer, though,
I'm sure that almost every character I create incorporates bits
and pieces from people I've known.
When it comes to your drafts, how much
you tend to rewrite?
I'm constantly editing, but I seldom rewrite. My writing technique
usually involves going back over whatever I did in the last couple
of writing sessions before I begin work on the new day's work. I
tweak those previous sections and use the time I spend there as
a sort of "pump priming" exercise. It gets me up to speed and running
before I hit the new material. It also means that by the time I
finish a book, I've been over every single chapter of it at least
three or four times.
Then I sit down and to a re-edit on the entire manuscript. I very
seldom find sections in it that require rewriting, although, obviously,
that's happened on occasion. For the most part, I find more tightly
focused words, descriptive material I can remove, and generally
spend some time tightening all the lugs and polishing the brightwork.
As a production writer, the hardest thing for me is actually turning
a manuscript loose. There's always something I can do to
make it a little bit better, a little bit sharper. Eventually, however,
you have to hand it over and trust to your editor and your copy
editor. If you don't, you'll just keep polishing away and never
get it done at all.
Of the work you've written, what's your
favorite novel to date?
That's a very difficult question to answer. It's rather like asking
which of your children you love the most. Probably the one I most
enjoyed writing was Path of the Fury, which took me about
2 1/2 weeks to get written. I'm also very fond of The Honor of
the Queen, and of Field of Dishonor. I don't think I
can really narrow it down much more than that.
Of all your books, what's been your best
selling work?
I don't think there's very much question that it has to be the
Honor Harrington series. I don't have exact figures in front of
me on any of the individual titles, but those have sold far and
away more copies, both on a per book basis and in absolute terms
for the series as a whole, than anything else I've published. So
far, at least.
What kinds of manuscript changes have
been made to your published works?
I'm not certain exactly what this question means. The copy editors
and I, and especially Toni Weisskopf and I, have made changes at
one time and another in most of the manuscripts before they were
published. By and large, Toni has been relatively satisfied with
what I've done, and right off the top of my head, I can't think
of any really major changes that she or Jim Baen have insisted upon.
Neither of them is at all shy about offering advice, and I'm not
at all shy about asking them to offer it, but by and large once
the manuscript is handed in, that's pretty much the form it's finally
published in, aside from relatively minor tweaking here and there.
Of the feedback you have heard people
come back on about your novels, what's your favorites?
There's been so much feedback over the last five or six years that
it's almost impossible to single out individual comments. That's
especially true where comments from readers are concerned. There
are so many readers, and they say so many things -- most, although
not all, kind -- that it's practically impossible to pick out my
favorites.
Obviously, the ones telling me what a wonderful writer I am always
warm the cockles of my heart. More than that, the ones telling me
that a character really meant something to them, or that I really
punched their emotional button with a scene or a passage, not only
please me but help to keep me pointed in the right direction. Knowing
I made them laugh (or cry) is always extremely satisfying.
Probably, though, the two comments which have absolutely meant
the most to me came from fellow writers, and, in particular, from
two writers whose words always meant a great deal to me as a reader.
One was Annie McCaffrey's very kind and encouraging approval of
Honor, because Annie had always produced strong female characters.
If she thought I was getting it right with Honor, I was not only
pleased, but felt immensely complimented. The other came from Roger
Zelazny, who was sitting at an autographing table with me at a convention
some months after Path of the Fury had been released.
I had always loved Roger's fantasy and his ability to combine fantasy
and science-fiction elements in novels like This Immortal,
so when he told me in a lull in the signings that he thought Path
of the Fury might be the best fusion of science fiction and
fantasy he had ever read, I felt about ten feet tall and covered
with long, curly hair.
What amount of research you do your books?
Does the science part of the fiction come easy to you?
I do a fair amount of research, and I impose shamelessly on readers
who have special expertise in areas where I am particularly ignorant.
For example, Dr. Mark Newman was very, very helpful when it came
to designing the genetic modification which causes the Grayson birthrate
to be so strongly skewed in favor of live female births.
I've spent many a pleasant hour picking the brains of scientists,
both at conventions and in other venues.
And I have a distinct tendency to set my stories far enough ahead
of our present technological frontiers to give me a decided degree
of freedom. For example, I rely quite a bit on manipulating gravity.
At the moment, we don't really have very much of a clue about how
to go about doing that, and, as one NASA scientist put it to me
when we were discussing the Honor Harrington books, we know just
a bit more about gravity at this point than Benjamin Franklin knew
about electricity when he flew his kite. That means I'm largely
in a terra incognita where anything goes as long as I'm internally
consistent. Consistency is the biggest and most important thing
of all.
Outside the "applied magic" (like artificial gravity) I'm prepared
to allow myself (and which I usually try to keep to know more than
one, or at most two, aspects of the tech base in any given universe),
I try very hard not to gratuitously step on our current scientific
understanding. By training, I'm a historian, not a scientist, so
I approach the science from the viewpoint of a fairly well informed
layman and rely on common sense, consistency, and input from people
who know more than I do, to try to get things reasonably straight.
How long does it take you to write a novel?
I produce a novel of say, 150,000 words in about 2 1/2 to 3 months.
As the word count goes up, so does the required production time.
The current Honor Harrington novel, which runs to about 340,000
words, took about four months. It's hard to be more precise, because
it was interrupted by a couple of other projects which simply had
to be dealt with.
You're often pegged as a writer of "military
science-fiction." Is that a label you wear with pride, or one you
even agree exists at all?
I don't think that anyone could doubt that "military science-fiction"
is clearly a subgenre of the general science-fiction field. I would
differentiate between what I consider to be "military science-fiction"
and what I consider to be ... something else masquerading by the
same name.
For me, military science-fiction is science-fiction which is written
about a military situation with a fundamental understanding of how
military lifestyles and characters differ from civilian lifestyles
and characters. It is science-fiction which attempts to realistically
portray the military within a science-fiction context. It is not
"bug shoots." It is about human beings, and members of other species,
caught up in warfare and carnage. It isn't an excuse for simplistic
solutions to problems.
It's an opportunity to explore responsibilities, morality, sacrifices,
and costs. For all that many people consider the United States to
be a violent society, most U.S. citizens actually have very limited
personal experience with violence. Violent crime here is nowhere
near as all-pervasive as Hollywood, the media, and popular prejudice
might suggest, and only a very small fraction of our present population
has actually seen combat through military service.
That means that the majority of readers of military science-fiction
have no real experiential background with it, which creates a special
responsibility for the writer. It's always been my opinion that
military science-fiction (or, for that matter, any sort of
fiction) in which only bad guys get killed, people hit by high-powered
weapons always recover -- or else die instantly and nearly painlessly,
and people can witnesses mass death and slaughter and emerge unscarred
and unchanged, is "splatter pornography." It trivializes and demeans,
and it sanitizes.
I don't see myself in the role of the great moral preceptor of
the people, but I do think that I have a responsibility as a writer
of "military science-fiction" to at least try to get the costs and
the sacrifices across. I have a heavy readership among active duty
and retired military personnel, and I take that as a very important
compliment. It tells me that my stories resonate with the actual
military community, and I think that resonance also comes through
the people who have never served in the military at all.
So, yes, I suppose you could say that it is a label I wear
with pride.
How much of your working day do you devote
to SF/F fiction these days?
Almost all of my working day is devoted to it, one way or
another. It's what I do.
I'm a big Napoleonic history buff, as
readers of my Triple Realm fantasy novel know all too well. I'm
guessing you might be, too, given the Hornblower-like backdrop to
the Honor books?
I'm a naval history buff more than a purely Napoleonic one. Actually,
I'm interested in most periods of history, with a strong emphasis
on military and diplomatic aspects of it. Obviously, from a European
perspective, Napoleon and Napoleonic France are going to loom pretty
large for any military historian, but I would say that my interest
in the American Civil War is probably at least as strong, and I'm
also deeply interested in the English Civil War and the religious
wars of the 17th century.
I knew that if the Honor novels worked, she was inevitably going
to be compared to Hornblower, which is one reason I dedicated the
first book to C. S. Forrester and the reason I selected her initials
with malice aforethought. (Actually, the first name -- "Honor" --
had come to me long before the last name did, and it was the Forrester
connection which suggested that her surname should start with an
"H" as well.) In fact, however, Honor is based in my mind more directly
on Horatio Nelson than on Hornblower. Mind you, I can see a lot
of points of congruency between Honor and Hornblower, but I think
I see at least as many differences, as well.
I played for a while with the notion of using the Punic Wars as
my model instead of starting out with late 18th century naval warfare
and a Napoleonic wars-like political situation. Unfortunately, there
was no way that I could create a situation in which a primarily
planet-based military power (the equivalent of the Romans' starting
land-based military strength) could possibly stand-up for very long
against a primarily space-based military power (the equivalent of
the Carthaginians' starting command of the Mediterranean).
In the end, I think that the fact that I was forced back on something
of the Perfidious Albion model actually worked out for the best.
I think that it offered a greater familiarity and more resonances
for a primarily English-speaking reading audience, which helped
a great deal.
Does the Grayson star system have a direct
analog in an analogy of Napoleonic Europe? We thought maybe they
might be the USA, but of course the U.S. were on the French side.
Actually, that's rather a British-centric viewpoint. We fought
a quasi-war with France long before we got into that unfortunate
affair in 1812 with your lads. Of course, if you'd offered us a
deal like the one Napoleon made us on the Louisiana Territory (and
left our seamen alone), that entire unpleasant episode might have
been avoided. <G>
More seriously, I deliberately played up aspects of the Napoleonic
analogy in order to distract the reader while I set up quite a non-Napoleonic
denoument (like when I killed off Esther McQueen, who everyone was
assuming was going to be Napoleon). It was rather like a stage magician
telling the audience to watch his right hand very carefully while
his left hand did the dirty work.
I'm not saying that there weren't major points of contact between
Napoleonic history and that of the Honor novels, but there were
at least as many differences, as well. Actually, Grayson is more
a combination of the United States in the early 19th-century and
Japan in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
In fact, Benjamin Mayhew makes the comparison with Japan quite
specifically in The Honor of the Queen. Of course, any analogy
that I set up in one of the novels serves purely as a starting point.
Where we go from there is always up for grabs, and I have no compunction
about going to very strange places indeed.
For example, many people initially insisted that the People's Republic
of Haven was the Soviet Union. Then when I introduced Rob S. Pierre
and the Committee of Public Safety, everyone said -- "Aha! It was
really Revolutionary France, all long!" Except, of course, for the
people who thought that I'd made a sudden deliberate change in the
paradigm I was using for the novels.
Actually, I'd done no such thing. From the very outset, the Republic
of Haven was more an example of the United States of America after
a couple of centuries of deficit spending by politicians who had
cut an unscrupulous deal with the managers of a massive welfare
state in return for permanent, hereditary political power for themselves
and their heirs. In large part, I did that deliberately to make
the point that very few people set out to become the Omnivoracity
of Evil.
The Republic of Haven was once a wonderful place to live, and it
self-destructed out of the best of motives and the poorest of public
policies. In War of Honor, the next book in this series,
that point is made even more strongly as Thomas Theisman and his
associates attempt to resurrect the old, original Republic from
the ash bin of history.
For those who are keeping track of such things, the Andermani Empire
is, in many ways, the Prussia of Frederick the Great, and the Silesian
Confederacy is sort of a combination of the historical Silesia and
the Austro-Hungarian Empire at its most ramshackle. The Solarian
League doesn't have any real Napoleonic analog, and I'm not entirely
certain that I would say any historical analog, although
many readers persist in trying to force fit one around it.
I read a review of an Honor novel in the
press, which thought the subtext was anti-democratic. That was a
little odd. Is it a criticism you've come across before?
I suspect that it's a criticism which would come more naturally
in the U.K.'s press than in the U.S.'s press, because we don't have
a great deal of experience living under a monarchy, constitutional
or other. One or two British writers (and readers) have argued that
I have the somewhat "warm and fuzzy" view of monarchy which only
someone fortunate enough not to live under such a system
could possess.
I've also heard the opposing viewpoint, also from British writers
and readers. To be completely honest, I think that it's at least
partly a case of the ideological and philosophical baggage they're
bringing to the books. I think, especially as we get deeper into
the last half of the series -- particularly Ashes of Victory
and War of Honor -- that those who think that I find an aristocratic
system inherently superior will find that that isn't the case.
I do find that there is a common thread in my books, not just in
the Honor novels, which works its way around the concept of giving
a competent individual the power and the opportunity to deal with
problems. You can see that, perhaps even more strongly, in Colin
MacIntyre in the Dahak novels.
That stems at least in large part of from the fact that I tend
to write military science fiction, which lends itself well to a
hierarchical social order. In the StarFire novels, however, by and
large you see democratic governments in both the Federation and
later the Terran Republic, and until the Corporate Worlds manage
to corrupt the system, the Federation government functions very
well.
I think that rather than "anti-democratic," the subtext of my novels
might be that democratic government is not inevitable. We in the
West tend to rather complacently assume that it will be. That we
are "the wave of the future." In fact, however, democratic government
-- or, my own preferred system, representative republican democracy
-- is the newest kid on the block. Historically, monarchy, autocracy,
and hereditary government have far longer track records.
The extreme conditions which may very well be encountered in any
efforts to colonize extra-solar star systems, it seems to me, are
likely to put a high premium on hierarchical systems in the name
of the discipline required to survive and prosper in alien environments.
I therefore would not be at all surprised to see monarchies and
similarly aristocratic forms of government reemerge.
I would expect them to be transitionary, but that doesn't mean
that anyone should expect them to disappear overnight or expect
those with a vested interest in maintaining an existing system because
of their power under it to abdicate their positions without a fight.
Nor do I assume that once democracy has emerged, it could not be
made to disappear once again. Which is what I had happen in the
People's Republic of Haven ... just as I am now in the process of
having it reemerge in the Republic of Haven.
If anything, in many respects the "anti-democratic" subtext of
my novels actually emerges from a traditional American suspicion
of the power of central government. Our tradition over here historically
has been that one has to keep a close eye on the government if one
doesn't wish to see it transform into a voracious monster, bent
on consuming the individual rights and liberties of its citizens.
That suspicion of big government has faded somewhat, among at least
some segments of the U.S. population, in the last 50 or 60 years,
but it was very definitely a part of the basic, underlying American
philosophy of government when the Constitution was written and probably
at least through the Great Depression.
In some regards, I suppose that I am reacting against the shift
away from that view, which is one I continue to hold. So I tend
to be suspicious of manipulative, self-serving politicians who operate
most comfortably in the shadows of a façade, sham democracy,
and I tend to enshrine heroes who are their opponents.
That has a tendency to create situations in which governments are
either transitioning into more monarchial forms or being rescued
from them. In the case of the Dahak novels, I really couldn't think
of any way that something like the Fifth Empire could be avoided
given the threat the human race faced and the absolutely imperative
need to quickly and thoroughly unite it. In the case of the Honor
Harrington novels, I deliberately set out to create a situation
in which the proper foil for an avowedly "democratic" state which
was actually totalitarian was inevitably going to be an avowedly
"monarchial" system which actually enshrined the rights of the individual.
That situation is now in a state of transition, but that was the
basic starting point. And, of course, the fact that I was deliberately
basing Honor on Nelson and the Royal Manticoran Navy on Nelson's
navy also was a strong factor in pushing me towards a constitutional
monarchy model for the Star Kingdom.
I'm not sure that all of that is really to the point, but I hope
it goes at least some distance towards explaining my "anti-democratic"
bias. And, yes, I have been accused by a few people of being anti-democracy.
In response to which, I can only concur with Winston Churchill:
democracy is the worst form of government imaginable ... except
for all the others.
Everyone at the Nest had an amused and
knowing laugh when "Rob S. Pierre" was introduced as a baddie. Is
the Honor Harrington universe ever going to throw up a General "Bony
P. Art" to give Honor a real run for her money?
Esther McQueen was probably as close as we're ever going to get
to a real Bonaparte analog. As I say, from the very beginning I've
been planning to take the series away from the French Revolutionary
model. In fact, that model was never as central to the People's
Republic of Haven as many people thought it was.
There is no Napoleonic analog, so far as I know, for Thomas Theisman
and his reformers, for example. Now, between them, Thomas Theisman
and Shannon Foraker ought to prove at least as capable as Napoleon
and his Marshals, and I think I can predict that they will give
Honor a run for her money before this is all over.
What's the reader reaction been to your
plot device of setting up "modern" space warfare within the same
constraints as the Georgian navy? Can you ever really "cross the
T" in the void?
Actually, one thing which has been amazing to me is the number
of my readers who don't realize that that's what I did in the first
place. Given the constraints of the technology I set up, yes, it
is possible to "cross the T" in naval warfare in the "Honorverse"
(as some of my readers on the side of the pond have christened it).
It takes a fairly incompetent or completely out of luck opponent
to let you get away with it, but the tactics are workable -- especially
at relatively short range -- given the weapons and maneuvering systems
I established.
I did spend quite a bit of time and effort coming up with a system
which would let me work with 18th century naval constraints on a
much larger scale. At the same time, as I hope has been obvious
at least since Honor Among Enemies, I've been working on
changing the entire basis for tactical warfare in the Honorverse.
Overall, I'd have to say that reader reaction both to my original
constraints and the changes I've been introducing has been positive.
Have you ever had a letter from any French
fans of the Honor novels? I wonder what they might make of it all?
The books are published in France in a French language version.
I've gotten e-mails from French fans, most of whom really haven't
commented on Rob S. Pierre or any of the other "French" elements
in the People's Republic. I don't know if that's because I've been
relatively sympathetic to those opposed to the "old regime," including
even Pierre himself, when you come right down to it.
Or possibly, because they're French, they've been more sensitive
all along to the ways in which the People's Republic departs
from the French Revolutionary model. I don't know. In fact, I don't
know that I ever even really thought of it from that perspective
until you asked the question. It might be rather interesting to
find out.
What are you working on at the moment?
Any more delights planned in the Honor series to keep us fans said
with our annual diet of cruiser duels and orbital missile combat?
I'm just finishing up the proofreading on War of Honor,
which I promise you will answer the question some of my readers
asked after Ashes of Victory: "How could you possibly end
the war without even letting Honor fight in it?"
Honor herself is getting a bit senior now to take individual cruisers
or battlecruisers on white-knuckled death rides, but I imagine she
can probably do the same thing with an entire fleet, if she really
puts her mind to it. From the very beginning of the series, I made
up my own mind that Honor was not going to be another Captain Jim
Kirk.
She might have political enemies which would slow her promotion,
but she was not going to be stuck forever as a captain because that
was her "highest calling." As such, she is going to continue to
grow and mature as a senior officer and eventually -- like Nelson
-- emerge as the pre-eminent fleet commander of her generation in
Manticoran and/or Grayson service.
I think that the readers will stay with me while that happens.
In addition, however, I intend to launch a second series in the
Honorverse. At the moment, I'm calling at the "Saganami Island"
series, and it will focus on very junior officers who were Honor's
students at the Academy as she was Raoul Courvoisier's student and
protegee.
Some of the officers who were Honor's juniors in On Basilisk
Station and The Honor of the Queen, like Scotty Tremaine
and Rafe Cardones, will be in very much the same position Honor
was in those early books.
This will give me the opportunity to play with some of those characters
in situations which provides more room for their own growth and
development while introducing an entire new generation of officers
and characters and creating a situation with lots and lots
of opportunities for the single-ship actions and small-scale battles
-- of, of course, immense importance despite their relatively small
size -- which were so much a part of the first two or three Honor
novels.
I am also very seriously contemplating a third series which would
focus on Stephanie Harrington, Lionheart, and the struggle to build
the Sphinx Forestry Service into what it has become by the time
Honor comes along. That series would be set, obviously, 400 years
or so before On Basilisk Station, and would contain no wars.
In addition, I'm thinking about shaping it as a Young Adult series,
although it would not be marketed as such by Baen. I think there's
room in the Honorverse for all three series.
I'm going to try to continue to do an Honor novel each year. I
may not be able to maintain that schedule, even allowing for the
substitution of Saganami Island books and/or the Stephanie series,
however. I have two separate collaborative series now with Eric
Flint (who has been kind enough to invite me in to play in his 1632
universe) and with John Ringo in the Prince Roger universe, plus
quite a few solo projects that are hanging fire and need to be dealt
with.
I hope to get War of Honor put to bed in the next week or
so, and hopefully to get the third Prince Roger (which John has
finished the rough draft on) out the door by no later than the middle
of July. After that, I have to get the next Honor anthology finished,
do a short story for Eric for his 1632 anthology, and then (hopefully)
do the third book in the Oath of Swords series. Then, sometime
around the end of the year, Eric and I need to begin work on 1634:
The Baltic, which will be the sequel to our 1633, which
is due out sometime this fall. After which, I will undoubtedly begin
work on the sequel to War of Honor.
I've got something like 30 books under contract with Baen, counting
the collaborations, so I've got things to keep me busy for the next
ten years or so no matter what. I promise, though, that Honor is
going to be high on the list, and at the moment I figure that there
will be probably a minimum of another five novels or so in the central
story arc.
(C) Stephen Hunt 2002
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